A Choleric Moment!

Occasionally I like to wander into a known liberal web site and sharpen my wits by engaging in a discussion with bloggers of the opposite opinion. The responses are hilarious and I've got to share some of them with you. I open up the discussion by explaining to them how allowing the federal government to administer your healthcare you would be sacrificing your freedom by diminishing your choices. Here's how they handled that........

Future shock replied
"I suggest you look up terms like "herd immunity", "social diseases", and "epidemic".ONE IN SIX Americans has herpes, a social disease that can only be passed by very intimate contact (and whose spread can be nearly halted if everyone infected had access to Valtrex or similar antivirals - but it's not cheap and most don't)."

Saul Alinsky would be proud. He tells them to deflect the subject matter and take the person your arguing with to a place they are uncomfortable with. Well done, except I answered....

First of all we are discussing your freedom of choices when it pertains to healthcare, not social disease. Now about your desire to have free Valtrex for all herpes sufferers. Valtrex neither prevents the spread nor cures herpes. It merely treats the symptoms caused by the outbreaks. Read the label!

Then bonncarl defended the liberal view like this.....
"Uh, tell that to the millions of americans who lost jobs due to the crappy Bush 43 policies that put the economy into a tailspin in the first place."

Now I was taken aback with that kind of deep thinking. But I did manage to recover and reply....

I realize George Bush destroyed the universe as you know it. I can only hope someday you'll find it in your heart to move on and forgive as we are taught in the bible. With that being said the topic we are discussing is the government control of your healthcare. Could you please reply with something pertinent and timely so we can move this discussion forward? George Bush has been out of office for over 13 months now and currently we have different people in Washington. The purpose of this discussion is to give those people some guidance as to the mood of the nation, not to dwell in the past and assign blame. Progress is attained by looking forward.

Measure for measure also weighed in with this snippet.....
"Let's review. The plan cuts the deficit over 10 year and over 20 years. It has tough cost control measures, as deemed by those who have spent their life studying this issue. Sure, it could be improved upon. But the status quo is simply not sustainable. True budget hawks applaud this bill: phonies can only reach for hallucinatory rhetoric"

Finally someone who could stay on topic! Well sort of, we were discussing the intrusion of government into our choices as citizens when it comes to healthcare. None the less, I put on my party shoes and countered with this.....

"Speaking of rhetoric, is it the new math you use when you try to explain how your going to insure an additional 30 million people, pre-existing conditions and all for less money? But you are quite correct on one issue, "The status quo is not sustainable." That problem you point out is created by other government sponsored entitlements that went out of control. Medicaid, medicare, and social security. Thank you for making my point. This entitlement, just like those, will over run the proposed expense, just like the history of ever single government program ever created. That my friend will put the final nail in the coffin of our economy. The only true way to save our economy is to dismantle government run entitlements and restore the responsibility and accountability for healthcare and retirement back to the people. I know it's asking a great deal for individual citizens to accept responsibility, but true freedom has a price. For those who are less fortunate, we have charities. Well run organizations that offer the same entitlements as the government with no fraud or waste. The government needs to get out of the business of charity and the business of insurance, those are for the free market. Government is for governing. A truly free society looks to innovative free market solutions to solve needs.

Funny, none of them had replies! The liberal ideology has no merit when confronted with the facts. I'm sure they all mean well, their hearts seem to be in the right place, but they refuse to look beyond the immediacy of the problem to the root cause. Like removing weeds from your garden, to temporarily make it look good by just removing the tops isn't the answer. You have to extract the root.

God Bless
Capt, Bill